Brutonian
Bus Company Vehicle Pictures and History – Part 2
Chris
Knubley’s Ownership – 1979-Late 1986 (inclusive)
Research
completed in August 2010 by Paul Welling, Michael Wadman and Ian
Trotter. This is the second of four Vehicle Pictures and History
Documents covering the three different owners of Brutonian Bus
Company. The names under the pictures own the copyright. There are more pictures online
and you can get in touch by contacting Paul Welling.
XTA838
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Ian Trotter
XTA838 at Brutonian yard in 79
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Michael
Wadman
XTA838 at Brutonian yard in 79 (KEH445D left, 217UYC right)
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Martyn
Hearson
XTA838 at Brutonian yard in 80 (MMR552 behind)
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History (not allocated a Vehicle
List Number)
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58 – New to Devon General
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Jan 71 -
Passed to Western National with their takeover of Devon General
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May 71 –
Acquired by Monk & Allday, Fowey, Cornwall
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Mar 75 –
Acquired by Rees (Lands End Coaches), St Just, Cornwall
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Apr 79 – Acquired by Brutonian
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By
Jan 84 – Not operated and disposed of to be used for spares by Richard
Holladay (Devon Red Bus) who restored XTA839
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Technical information
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XTA838 stood at the back of the
yard and was forgettable. It never ran and was one of two vehicles
purchased within less than twelve months from Rees of St Just. 839 has
been preserved in original Devon General colours from 58.
Chris Knubley may have had a yard
clearout in autumn 82 after the four Bristol REs arrived due to lack of
space and possibly 8087TE went at the same time. 838 was
acquired by Richard Holladay for spares for XTA839, which started
Richard Holladay's 'Red Bus Services' fleet in the early 80s. At one
point both vehicles were in the Brutonian yard, presumably 839 was
being worked on with parts moving across from 838.
B & D Rees acquired the
ex-Devon General Nimbus. The Lands End Coaches name started to appear
when they acquired their first Roadliner in May 76. This lasted 18
months before disappearing over the cliffs near Mousehole. KEH445D was
their second Roadliner, and was sold to Chris Knubley after 9 months,
followed by the Nimbus at the beginning of 79."The company ceased
trading in May 80, but by that time only had a Commer minibus.
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GAX5C
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Ian Trotter
GAX5C on route 4 in c80
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R Marshall
GAX5C outside the Brutonian workshop in c81
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Michael
Wadman
GAX5C at Gillingham Station (Gordon Tozer driving) in Aug
87
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Ian Trotter
GAX5C in the yard c87 (OHU768F left)
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History of Vehicle List Number 18
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Oct 65 – New to Red & White
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Apr 78 – Acquired by National Welsh
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Jun 79 – Acquired from National
Welsh by Brutonian Bus Co
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May 88 – Withdrawn
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Feb 89 – Disposed of to Jones, High
Wycombe (dealer)
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Nov 89 – Acquired by Northern Bus,
Anston (not operated)
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Jan
90 – Disposed of to PVS, Carlton (dealer) and believed to be scrapped
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Technical information
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Information
GAX5C was good runner for
Brutonian. It was involved in an accident which required the front end
to be rebuilt by Chris Knubley. Both the front windscreens were
replaced after one of the originals was smashed. Brutonian couldn’t
find the large bus windows and purchased the smaller coach windscreens,
which required them to build new windscreen mountings. Compare the
levels of the top and bottom edges of the windscreens relative to other
features of the bodywork to see the difference. The second time the windscreen was
smashed it was believed to be due to a British Rail truck reversing
into it.
Although the
coach windscreens fit quite well, it must have involved quite a lot of
work, and spare windscreens for the bus body must have been difficult
to obtain by the 1980s.
In 81 GAX had the engine lowered to replace the gearbox or
some other major mechanical work. This was their first Bristol RE and
proved to be a popular chassis, as they purchased a further 6 after
this one.
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CYA181J
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Michael
Wadman
CYA181J in Brutonian yard after arriving in Jun 79 (GAX5C
left)
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Martyn Hearson
CYA181J refuelling outside the
Brutonian workshop c80
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Keith Newton
CYA181J in front of Longleat
house in Mar 87
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Paul Welling
CYA181J at Quantock Motor Services in May 10
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History of Vehicle List Number 19
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71 – New to Hutchings &
Cornelius, South Petherton
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Jun 79 – Acquired by Brutonian Bus
Co from H&C
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May 88 – Acquired by Chiltern
Queens, Woodcote near Reading for £800
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Jun 92 – Acquired by Knotty Bus Co
(also number 19)
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By Sep 00 – Disposed of to
Paritrans, Cotes Heath (dealer)
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By May 01 – Acquired by Rexquote of
Bishops Lydeard, Taunton (became Quantock Motor Services in Mar 04) at
Winkleigh base
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Oct 09 – Moved from Winkleigh for
preservation assessment with Quantock Motor Services, Taunton
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Jun 10 – Re-acquired by Martyn Hearson (formerly of Knotty
Bus and Coach) and moved from QMS to Staffordshire
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CYA181J was the smartest and newest
in the fleet in 79. It was mainly run on Route 12 with John (Jack)
Holland, who didn’t like it! He preferred the bus he had used on the
route for several years, BND 877C, a Leyland Panther Club. However, BND
suffered a fate that many Brutonian buses; it was parked up because it
needed expensive repairs. It was never to run again, so Jack was stuck
with CYA. Jack was in his 60s and a heavy pipe smoker; the cab of the
bus stank! Jack wanted a bus to please his passengers and for him CYA
was too step an entry, he preferred the dropped floor of BND.
CYA181J is a remarkable vehicle,
because it has lasted the challenges of time of nearly 40 years of
service. All four companies that ran it (H&C, Brutonian, Chiltern
Queens and Knotty) have all gone, but CYA goes on. Stephen Morris of
Quantock Motor Services had it moved up from Winkleigh, Devon in Oct 09
and kept it at their Taunton site, before selling it back to Martyn
Hearson to be preserved in Knotty livery. It was moved to Staffordshire
on 15 Jun 2010 for restoration.
The curved paint line on the front
was carried on from the original Brutonian livery. Pics of 217UYC (old
ones), OVL495 and YYB118 they each had cream paintwork on the lower
section of the body work. For practical reasons, the lower bodywork
section was painted blue on later buses. It's pretty muddy on those
Somerset country lanes! It was sold onto Chiltern Queens for £800
because it needed work on to the outriggers between the chassis and the
body.
This bus was always a challenge to
drive, if the revs weren't right you could put the clutch in till the
cows come home and it would still crunch! Getting reverse was also not
for the fainthearted! Originally it was fitted with a 5
speed synchromesh box, Knotty had to resort to a 6 speed constant mesh.
However, in it's new guise, it was capable of near on 70, at which
point the body seemed close on parting with the chassis!
Martyn Hearson of Knotty went
originally to buy former H&C TYD 122G in Jun 92, but opted for CYA
when comparing entrance arrangements in the light of it's proposed
usage. After the sale of the Knotty business, Martyn retained the bus,
but later sold it on to preservationist Steve Morris of Taunton. CYA
didn't fit in with either the modern day fleet or the Heritage
operation of Quantock Motor Services and was parked up for several
years. In Oct 09 it was driven up to Taunton from Winkleigh and in May
10, QMS downsized and Martyn re-acquired the bus for restoration in
Knotty livery.
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WYD928H
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Michael Wadman
WYD928H on the workshop ramp in
80
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Ian Trotter
WYD928H on service 58 at Sunny Hill School cSep 80 after
the front end was rebuilt
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Ian Trotter
WYD928H on Route 8 (not 2) to Salisbury c81
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Paul Welling
WYD928H in Shobdon on 30 Jan 10
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History of Vehicle List Number 20
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Nov 69 – New to Hutchings &
Cornelius, South Petherton
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Jul 79 – Acquired by Brutonian
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Sep 82 – Withdrawn?
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Oct 87 – Disposed of to Wacton,
Bromyard and parked at Shobdon
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May
10 – Scrapped after being parked up 28 years
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For some reason this bus never
seemed to get the Brutonian livery to replace the original H&C
paintwork that it appears to have had all it’s life! The body of the
bus was not as well finished as the other bus acquired by Brutonian in
summer 79 from H&C – CYA 181J, which is going into preservation in
2010. WYD was quite a plain bus, which generally had a good service
record. It suffered a front end collision in late 79/early 1980 and was
off the road for some time, before it was eventually rebuilt. The
Brutonian name was not repainted on the front panel once it was rebuilt
and repainted.
It was the
‘uglier’ of the two buses acquired when H&C folded on 31 May 79
that Brutonian acquired and it had a very different working life to
CYA181J. Firstly it was never painted in the Brutonian colours and was
taken out of service shortly after this shot, following a front end
collision. After that it only ran for a couple more years before being
parked up at the back of the yard from 82.
In Oct 87 it was cleared out along
with several others and taken to a scrap yard.It was in the same scrap yard as
three Brutonian Bristol REs – MTJ926G, MTJ927G and STC929G and I
visited it on 30 Jan 2010. It was finally scrapped in May 2010.
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8087TE
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Martyn
Hearson
8087TE at Yeovil Bus Station on Route 10 in c80
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Ian Trotter
8087TE on Route 10 to Yeovil in c80
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Derek Persson
8087TE on Church Bridge 80
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Ian Trotter
8087TE off to the scrap yard c82
with 753MDV
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History of Vehicle List Number
22 or 23?
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Jun 63 – New to Lancashire United
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? – Acquired by Ashways, Liverpool
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? – Acquired by Rev David
Green at Weymouth (dealer)
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Nov 79 – Acquired by Brutonian and swapped
with TRN769
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Nov 80 – Withdrawn
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May
82? – Scrapped at Warren (breaker), Castle Cary
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8087TE was an odd bus which was
only run by Brutonian for a year. It was bought because it was long and
narrow and therefore suitable to be used on the tight country lanes
(e.g. Route 10 to Yeovil as seen in the pictures). It looks quite tidy,
although in reality both the interior and exterior were tatty. It had
leather seats and wooden ridges on the floor, which made it awkward to
clean. It was soon parked up and non-roadworthy and appears to have
been scrapped in 82/83.
8087TE may have been part of a yard
clearout in late 82, after the arrival of the four Bristol REs due to a
lack of space. XTA838 may have also have been disposed of and scrapped
at the same time. By the look of the final picture it has deteriorated,
suggesting it could be later than 82. It was parked in front of the
yard by the station for several months before being scrapped.
8087TE was part of a batch of two
(143/144 8087/8 TE).
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753MDV
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Michael
Wadman
753MDV in Brutonian yard in 81
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History of Vehicle List Number 25
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Jun 63 – New to Southern National
Omnibus Company Limited, Exeter (2622)
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Jul 66 – Transferred to Weymouth
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Jul 67 – Converted to B41F
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Nov 69 – Transferred to Western
National Omnibus Company Limited, Exeter (2622) and based at Weymouth
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May 77 – Transferred to Seaton
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78 – Out of service with Western
National Omnibus Company Limited, Exeter (2622)
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Oct 78 – Acquired by Hartwood
Exports (Machinery) Limited, Hoyland Common (dealer)
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Mar 79 – Acquired by Morgan,
Monmouth
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Jan 80 – Acquired by WG & CS
Peakes, Pontnewynydd
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Sep 81 – Withdrawn and acquired by
Brutonian Bus Company, Bruton
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Sep 81 – Converted to Service
Vehicle (Recovery)?
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May 82? – Scrapped with 8087TE
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Technical information
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B41F
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Chassis – Bristol MW5G
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Body – ECW
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Information
753MDV was not operated and may have been converted to a
service recovery vehicle.
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MTJ926G & MTJ927G/STC928G & STC929G
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Ian Trotter
MTJ926G at Yeovil Bus Station on
Route 10 c85
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Paul Welling
MTJ927G derelict at Shobdon Jan 10
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Keith Newton
STC928G in Dorchester on service
6 in May 87
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Ian Trotter
STC928G at Church Bridge in
Bruton on service 10 in c87
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Ian Trotter
STC929G in Mere on Route 12
(Jack Holland driving) in c82
WYD928H behind
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Ian Trotter
STC929G in the yard (MTJ927G/926G right) in late 86/early
87
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History of Vehicle List Numbers
26/27/28/29
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68/69 – All new to Accrington
Corporation
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Apr 74 – All acquired by Hyndburn
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Jun 82 – All acquired by Brutonian
Bus Company
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Oct 87 – All disposed of to Wacton,
Bromyard (dealer)
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Jan 88 – STC928G acquired by Metrowest Oldfield
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? – STC929G disposed of to Ripley,
Carlton (dealer) for scrap (although 26/29/27 appear in photos in
Shobdon in 09)
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? 91 – STC928G returned to Bromyard and scrapped
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Sep 09 – MTJ926G scrapped
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Feb 10 – MTJ927G scrapped
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This was a massive purchase for
Chris Knubley in Jun 82 – four Bristol REs and an indication of his
preference for Bristol chassis vehicles adding to GAX5C. They were all
pretty indistinguishable from each other and none ever received any
change of paintwork, the blue and red seemingly close enough to the
Brutonian livery. They were all in the fleet until 87 when fleet
rationalisation took place around the time of the merger with Air
Camelot. By this time 27 had been used as the donor for a number of
years and the front panelling was removed along with the windscreen.
One saw further service, STC928G was sold to Metrowest Oldfield and
then later returned to Martin Perry of Wacton, Bromyard to scrap four
years later, overall it was the best runner.
26 and 29 were used by local
fireman in Shobdon, Herefordshire for metal cutting practice. 27
survived the longest and was finally scrapped in Feb 10, having been
stripped bare at Brutonian and at Shobdon.
Some side panels of 28 were painted
better than others, because driver Gordon Tozer would give them a quick
coat when he had time in the yard. Gordon stayed with Brutonian and was
made redundant when the company was closed by Cawlett in 91.
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OHW596F & OHU768F
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Michael
Wadman
OHW596F on Route 8 at Salisbury Bus Station 5 Oct 86
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Keith Newton
OHW596F on route 6 at Cerne Abbas Giant in Aug 87
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Ian Trotter
OHW596F outside the Brutonian workshop c87
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Ian Trotter
OHW596F on route at Salisbury Bus Station c86
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Ian Trotter
OHU768F outside the Brutonian Workshop c87
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Ian Trotter
OHU768F in the Brutonian Yard c87
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Michael
Wadman
OHU768F in the Brutonian Yard on 29 May 87
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Keith Newton
OHU768F on Route 12 at Shaftesbury Town Hall in Jul 87
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History for both OHW596F
(Vehicle List Number 30)
and OHU768F (Vehicle List Number
31)
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Jul 68 – Both new to Bristol
Omnibus Company
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Oct 82 – Withdrawn and sold to
dealer Ensign Purfleet
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Dec 82 – Acquired by Gastonia
Coaches Cranleigh
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Dec 84 – Withdrawn
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Jun 85 – Acquired by Brutonian
through a dealer in Stoke on Trent
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Jun 88 – Acquired by Company Bus, Gloucester (dealer).
Presumed scrapped
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Technical information
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Chassis – Bristol RELL6L
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Body – ECW
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Information
OHW596F and OHU768F were a pair of former Bristol
Omnibus Bristol RELL6Ls. They were the last acquisitions during
Chris Knubley’s ownership of the business. OHW596F was the last
Brutonian to be painted in the 'traditional' colours. It’s a shame they didn't paint the
patches out on the roof to make it look more respectable, as this is
similar to the roof of YRT896H carrying an advert for a Norfolk hotel
because Brutonian didn't paint over it! They arrived in black and white
stripes and were known as the ‘zebra buses’ and some think they worked
on a Safari park!
OHU768F
demonstrates two effects of the change of ownership of Brutonian in
1986: the appearance of a rather sickly shade of green as part of the
livery, and the discontinuance of the use of fleet numbers.
The advert on the rear corners of OHU768F was for the ford
dealership in Gillingham (Grosvenor house motors). The cost of the
advert on the bus for said dealer was exactly the same price as it cost
to paint the bus.
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Brutonian Loan Vehicles
NFR558T
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Michael
Wadman
Leyland National Demonstrator NFR558T
Motcombe Route 12 with Jack Holland in 79
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History (not allocated a Vehicle
List Number)
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Jan 79 – New to John Fishwick and
Sons of Golden Hill Garage, Leyland, Lancs
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Aug/Sep 79 on trial with Brutonian
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79 – Returned to John Fishwick and
Sons of Leyland,
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? – Ribble Preservation Trust as a
spares vehicle
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02? – Scrapped
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Technical information
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This Leyland National Demonstration
bus was only in the fleet for a couple of months, with no real
intention to buy it, NFR558T probably helped bridge the gap whilst
CYA181J and GAX5C were painted in summer 79.
It lasted well until 2002 when it scrapped having been used
by the Ribble Preservation Trust as a spare vehicle.
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VUJ252J
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Michael
Wadman
VUJ252J at Yeovil Bus Station c80
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History (not allocated a Vehicle
List Number)
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71 – New to Brown, Donnington Wood
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Aug 78 – Acquired by Wake’s,
Wincanton/Sparkford
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Nov 83 – On loan to Brutonian
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Apr 94 – Scrapped
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Technical information
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Chassis – Bedford YRQ
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Body
– Willowbrook
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TRO201E
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Ian Trotter
TRO201E at Marsh’s yard in Wincanton
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History (not allocated a Vehicle
List Number)
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67 – New to Don, Bishops Stortford
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? – Acquired by Young, Radstock
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Nov 69 – Acquired by Roman City,
Bath
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Nov 75 – Acquired by Marsh,
Wincanton
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Nov 83 – On loan to Brutonian
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Dec 83 – Acquired by Andrews,
Trudroxhill (not operated)
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By May 93 – Converted to a caravan with unknown owner
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Technical information
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Chassis – Bedford VAM 14
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Body
– Plaxton
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BAD864K
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History (not allocated a Vehicle
List Number)
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Apr 72 – New to R Grindle,
Cinderford
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Sep 78 – Acquired by Smith, Pylle
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Nov-Dec 84 – On loan to Brutonian
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By Jul 87 – Acquired by Halligan
(Poole Bay) Bournemouth
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Nov 87 – Acquired by Smedley, Crewe
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Sep 88 – Acquired by Pilkington,
Accrington
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By Apr 91 – Acquired by Bold, Melling (not operated)
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Technical information
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Chassis – Bedford YRQ
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Body
– Plaxton
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PYB743L
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The Late RF
Mack
PYB734L at Wakes Depot in Sparkford
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History (not allocated a Vehicle
List Number)
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Technical information
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Chassis – Bedford YRT
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Body
– Willowbrook
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WPF872G
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Martyn
Hearson
WPF872G
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History (not allocated a Vehicle
List Number)
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Dec 68 – New to Safeguard Coaches,
Guildford
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Jun 74 – Acquired by Taylor,
Tintinhull
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Dec 80 – Acquired by Shaftesbury
and District
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Dec 84 – On loan to Brutonian
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May 87 – Acquired by?
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Technical information
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Non- Brutonian Vehicles
Parked in the Yard
MMR552
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Martyn Hearson
MMR552 in Brutonian yard in Jul
79 (TRN 769 left and XTA 838 in front)
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History
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Jul 55 – New
to Silver Star no.10
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Jun 63 –
Acquired by Wilts and Dorset and transferred to Western National (Royal
Blue livery)
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67 – Acquired
by Webbers, Blissland Nr. Bodmin
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72 – Acquired
by Whitehead, Cheltenham
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76 – Acquired
by Simon Turner, Beckington Nr. Bath preservation
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By 80-2 seen
parked at Brutonian, Bruton
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82 – Jack
Parsons, Eastleigh (Restored to Silver Star condition on premises of
Red Lion pub, Tatton)
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By 07 Geoff & Ian Norris et al
FoKAB
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Technical information
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Tucked away
at the rear of the Brutonian yard was this ex Silver Star of Porton
Down Harrington bodied Leyland Tiger Cub MMR552. Both MMR553 and 552
have been fully preserved.
MMR552 was
acquired by Wilts and Dorset in 63 with the takeover of Silver Star,
but was not used by W & D. It passed immediately, along with MMR553
and a number of other Silver Star Tiger Cubs to Western National where
they were painted in Royal Blue livery.
MMR 552
subsequently passed to Cornish operator Webber of Blisland in 67,
staying there for nearly ten years before passing to Whitehead,
Cheltenham in 76 and then into preservation a year later.
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BCK367C
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Martyn
Hearson
BCK367C in the Brutonian yard in summer 79 (NJW719E left,
BND877C and 217UYC right/rear)
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History
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Technical information
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Chassis – Leyland PD3/6
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Body
– Preston H38/32F
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BCK367C was unusual for Brutonian
to have a double-decker. It was owned by someone from Shepton Mallet
who parked it there before preservation commenced. In the final years
two Southern National double deckers were used for short periods by
Brutonian and one was a training vehicle.
It was
entered into the Weymouth Bus Rally in 75, the same year that YYB118
and BND877C were entered by Brutonian.
The PD3/6
classification refers to the eight Leyland PD2/10s which were rebuilt
to PD3 spec by Preston Corporation. All these were Leyland bodied and
had the bodies extended as well as the extension to the chassis and the
rebuilds were all converted from low-bridge open platform rear loaders
to high-bridge forward entrance buses with sliding doors.
The Preston rebuilds were as follows:
2 PRN761 ex-ECK509 new1954, rebuilt 1961 (PC61/3)
5 NCK757 ex-ECK510 new1952, rebuilt 1960 (PC60/2)
9 NCK741 ex-FRN731 new1954, rebuilt 1959 (PC59/1)
10 PRN762 ex-FRN732 new1954, rebuilt 1962 (PC62/4)
50 SRN375 ex-FRN734 new1954, rebuilt 1962 (PC62/5)
51 SRN376 ex-FRN735 new1954, rebuilt 1963 (PC63/6)
59 FCK453F ex-FRN739 new1954, rebuilt 1967 (PC67/8)
61 BCK367C ex-FRN740 new1954,
rebuilt 1965 (PC65/7)
They retained their previous fleet numbers but received new chassis
numbers, shown in brackets. The PSV Circle Preston Corporation Fleet
History shows #61 as withdrawn in 1978 and sold to a preservationist at
Shepton Mallet.
Most of these rebuilds were
scrapped, although #2 is preserved in Preston Corporation maroon livery
and is owned and operated on private hires, sightseeing tours and
wedding parties with Dreadnought Coaches of Alnwick.
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Brutonian Recovery Vehicles
Ian
Trotter
The
white Ford wrecker continued in use until the end of the Tony Tucker
era (therefore operated 81-89) and was then sold to a scrap yard in
Henstridge still in working order, although the cab was rusted out
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